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MesazhTitulli: Re: BBC: UĒK ka abuzuar me civilė   Sat May 29, 2010 1:36 am

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Arber,Drini,Xhema, jeni nder em te miret qe jau rrespeketon fjalen qeky plak i padiqem.
Ku me padit nji politikane te avropes ku neve na marrin meqaf lideret tane!, Shkau e beni gerdin para krejte botes, u habiten tane, e lideret tane se shohin te aresyeshme me ngrite padi ndaj nji shteti kriminel qe e ak deshemua me cdo kohe aneti shypetarizmen.
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DRINI prap nuk pajtohem me thenjen tende ,sepse nji patriot i mirfillt-plitikan nuk bazohet ne gjera te tilla,kjo nuk esht relavante ne ket rast.
Xhem cdo shtepi e ngroh dielli permes dritarve te saj.
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MesazhTitulli: Re: BBC: UĒK ka abuzuar me civilė   Sat May 29, 2010 1:47 am

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End of the road for Kosovo organ claims?



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By Nick Thorpe
BBC News, Pristina, Belgrade
and Tirana




Blood was found on the floor of the "yellow house"




For years rumours have
circulated about Serbs abducted and killed for their organs in the
months following the Kosovo war.



Three parallel international investigations, by war crimes
investigators from Serbia, the European Union, and the Council of
Europe, have failed to uncover any evidence that the Kosovo Liberation
Army (KLA) trafficked the organs of captives, according to sources close
to each investigation.



Dozens of predominantly Serb captives were allegedly taken to a
"yellow house" near Burrel in central Albania from June 1999 to May
2000, where their organs were systematically removed and sold, according
to accounts presented by Carla del Ponte, former war crimes prosecutor
at The Hague Tribunal in her 2008 autobiography.



But the failure to find either the original sources, or any new
evidence since 2004, may mean that the story was unfounded.



The Council of Europe report, due to be published next month by
investigator Dick Marty, is expected to focus rather on political
demands to the governments involved, rather than to uncover new facts.



Distraction
"The fact is that there is no evidence whatsoever in this
case," said Matti Raatikainen, head of the war crimes unit of Eulex, the
European Law and Justice Mission in Kosovo.






Matti Raatikainen says the scandal has distracted from the search
for remains


"No bodies. No witnesses. All the reports and media attention
to this issue have not been helpful to us. In fact they have not been
helpful to anyone."



The main problem, he said, was that the scandal created by the
allegations has distracted attention from the real work of finding the
remains of 1,861 people still missing from the war and its aftermath,
and prosecuting their killers - in Serbia, Kosovo and Albania.



We talked in his makeshift office in a cluster of containers at
the Alpha-Bravo base near Pristina airport, as the latest May storm
battered the roof.



Burly policemen came and went, surprised to find their boss
talking to a journalist. Mr Raatikainen, a quiet Finnish policeman, is
not known for his love of the media.



Loose ends
In 2009, a special BBC investigation found evidence of KLA
detention camps in Albania, especially in the north-east Albanian town
of Kukes. Earlier this month, Eulex made the first arrest in connection
with that case.



Details have also emerged that Albanians suspected of
disloyalty to the KLA were interrogated in a hotel in the Albanian
coastal town of Durres, and transferred to Kukes.



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I still believe something happened
there... but nothing on the scale of what has been suggested
Serbian source










But constant revelations in the Serbian press that new
evidence, or new witnesses have emerged for the organ-trafficking
allegations, have all proven either false, or unsubstantiated.



After the war in Kosovo, American journalist Michael Montgomery
came across former KLA soldiers who said they had transported Serb and
Albanian prisoners, dead and alive, across the border from Kosovo to
Albania.



Three of his seven sources referred to the possibility of
organ-trafficking, and identified the house near Burrel. But Montgomery
was unsure, and handed a summary of his research over to the Office of
Missing Persons and Forensics (OMPF) at the UN Mission in Kosovo.



Sources vanished
A team of UN and Hague Warcrimes Tribunal (ICTY) investigators,
led by Matti Raatikainen, visited the house in February 2004.



A chemical spray, used in a downstairs room, found widespread
traces of blood, of uncertain provenance, on the floor. Family members
offered contradictory explanations.



Medical equipment appropriate for surgical interventions was
found on the rubbish dump.



Some investigators wanted to pursue the case. Others felt the
evidence, even then, was too thin.



Most serious of all, Montgomery's original sources had
disappeared. One was dead, killed in a supposedly unrelated case. The
others could not be found.



Even the Serbian authorities, who have propagated the tale of
the yellow house most consistently, have their doubts today.



"I still believe something happened there," said a Belgrade
source, close to the war crimes court, "but nothing on the scale of what
has been suggested... and possibly not even connected to the KLA".



Mass graves
Considering the apparent lack of evidence, experts suggest the
Albanian government could help kill off a damaging story if only it were
more open.






Investigators are still searching for the remains of hundreds of
victims


UN special rapporteur Philip Alston said in February that "none
of the efforts to investigate have received meaningful co-operation on
the side of the government of Albania".



"In order to get rid of this issue," he urged Albania, "make
available a proposal for an independent investigation and offer genuine
co-operation."



The end of the "fairy-tale" of organ-trafficking, as one Eulex
prosecutor calls it, would still leave war crimes investigators with
plenty to do.



This month, a mass grave was found near the southern Serbian
town of Raska. Three lorry-loads of bodies - around 250 in total -
believed to be Albanians killed by Serb forces in Kosovo, were reburied
there in early June 1999.



The red soil encasing the bodies, according to eye-witnesses,
suggests the bodies were originally buried in the Drenica valley in
Kosovo, and moved to Serbia to destroy the evidence.



Prosecutors say they believe the Serbian military were
responsible. Excavations at the same site two years ago failed to find
the grave, which is now believed to lie beneath a car park and office
building.



Revenge killings
Missing Serbs are also being found in Kosovo. The exhumation of
up to 25 Serb victims of the KLA is due to start later this year in a
coalmine in the town of Obilic/Obiliq. The coal was set on fire, and the
mine shaft destroyed, to hide the evidence.



But the effort to find other victims is proving difficult.



"A lot of potential informants left," said Alan Robinson, joint
head of the OMPF.



"Other persons, who may know the whereabouts of the missing,
may not be willing to talk... out of fear, or lack of interest."



According to Eulex, 2,244 bodies have been identified in Kosovo
since 2001. Of these 301 were "non-Albanian", meaning Serb, Roma and
others.



Some 228 were the bodies of Serbs who went missing after 10
June 1999, the end of the war, at a time of revenge killings by Kosovan
Albanians. In total, around 13,500 are now believed to have been killed
during the conflict, or immediately after it.



Dick Marty's investigation for the Council of Europe into the
organ-trafficking allegations is due to be published in late June.
Exhumations at Raska will begin in August.

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po Drini por ne duhet te dalim nga kjo -dardha pik ner dardha, nuk esht parimore,dhe driteret pra duhen te zgjerohen por prap mbesin te saja por zgjerimi esht te dalim nga gezhoja e guaces, ne duhet ta bejm te pa mundeshmen per te qen. me kto pretendime se si esht populli te behem edhe ne, dot vendnumrojm edhe 3000 mij vite tjera.
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MesazhTitulli: Re: BBC: UĒK ka abuzuar me civilė   Sat May 29, 2010 9:34 am

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Une po u them ja ku eshte lepuri ,e ju me thoni ja tragu!

Nese kan bere kete krim te uēk ketu paska gishte edhe Brnard Kushneri;

Mire ai gazetari serb ia paska parashtrue kete pyetje se a e njeh kete shtepi ?

Rrofte amerika ,e rrofte anglia qe na paskan pranue kete lloje pavaresiae,keta dyja e paskan pergadit kete qull bashk me keta ish komandanta te uēk(titistat e maksistat e Enverit dhe te babes stalin)Nuk ka popull te prisht,pos udheheqesa te shitur .Keta tani ne emer te popullit ; e shohim me vone qiftelin e Nasradinit .Kush te ēliron ka te drejten te dhunoi me deshire e te roberoi kur ti kana!Me na pas ēlirue kombi nuk ishte ma udba e serbise neper kosove e shqiperi,qe kjo udba serbe paguhet me miliarda nga ilimunati,anglez e amerikan.Kete e di qe kurr nuk e prnoni se e verteta kall siq po na kalle.

Ska popull te poshter,ka udheheqesa te shitur me gjen te perzim!
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MesazhTitulli: Re: BBC: UĒK ka abuzuar me civilė   Sat May 29, 2010 12:01 pm

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po Drini por ne duhet te dalim nga kjo -dardha pik ner dardha, nuk esht parimore,dhe driteret pra duhen te zgjerohen por prap mbesin te saja por zgjerimi esht te dalim nga gezhoja e guaces, ne duhet ta bejm te pa mundeshmen per te qen. me kto pretendime se si esht populli te behem edhe ne, dot vendnumrojm edhe 3000 mij vite tjera.
Xhem dritaret nuk mundet ti zgjeroi nje individ e grup, se nuk ka shkopin magjik.
Qe ti zgjeroim dhe ti largoim grillat nje her e pergjithmon duhet ( dhe qe te bejm te pamundshem per te qen). Une mendoi se te gjitha jan te mundshme , ne duhet te veproim si nje Popull sebashkur kudo qe jemi.
E jo te ndar e perqar e me urreitje mes veti.
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MesazhTitulli: Re: BBC: UĒK ka abuzuar me civilė   Sat May 29, 2010 2:10 pm

poppulli nuk veprojn kurr se bashku pa e pas nji kallauz me ju prij, Drini njejt ishte dhe me uck-n po mos te ju prijshin disa njerz ktyre gjerave kurr sdot behej gjé.( populli jan si gjaja )kah te ju prijsh edhe shkojn, kjo nuk esht thenje e ime e thojn te gjith, pra duhet njerz te caktuar per te ju pri gjerave te caktuara si BASHKIMI por edhe ne aspekte te jera apo dhe sfida te tjera, pupulli nu esht ne gjendje vetvetiu ti kordinoj kto gjera, kurr sepse e kam cek dhe me heret vetum individ te caktuar ne krye te popullit, mund te i bejn dhe te realizojn shka esht ne te mir te kti populli.
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MesazhTitulli: Re: BBC: UĒK ka abuzuar me civilė   Sat May 29, 2010 5:34 pm

keto jane dezinformata
mundohen me perdhunu Luften e shenjėt tė UĒK-sė
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MesazhTitulli: Re: BBC: UĒK ka abuzuar me civilė   Sat May 29, 2010 10:39 pm

Nuk behet fjale per ta perdhosur luften e shejte te uēkes,sepse tek e fundit uēk nuk ka luftue,por kan luftue individet dhe jan vrare nga armiku apo nga shoket .Me pas luftue uēk moti ish kry puna e bashkimit,e jo Mitrovica e ndare,e pritet qe edhe te krijohen komunat e reja serbe neper kosove si shtete .Neser e keni rastin ta tregoni ju qe krenoheni se uēk ka qen e shejte .Mos kikirizni si pulat se u shkon brisku qafes !
E sai perkete nese kane bere keso krime ndaj civileve paska qen proces i montuar ne mesin e nanes shqiperi qe neser ta kethein serbin brenda ne kosove .Sidomos ata qe ja pergaditen vdekjen Adem Jasharit,dhe keta shiten kinse e udhehoqen uēk !


Edhe nje muaj ka afat qe kosoves tja pranoin pavaresin nese 95 shtete nuk e pranon edhe nje muaj e pati puna e pavaresise se kosoves burra .Neser eullexi terhiqet nga veriu i Mitrovices veteranet e luftes do bejne protesta e shofim se a jane trima nime e nese jan te vendosur me vdek qetani eshte rasti me tregue veten shqiptaret e vertete e jo me ik e me ua lene patrioteve qe kan me hanger njesoj si ne uēk dhe mbas luftes e morren ne dore kosoven udbashet e serbise,siq e i keni ne qeveri te gjithe.
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MesazhTitulli: Re: BBC: UĒK ka abuzuar me civilė   Sat May 29, 2010 11:33 pm

UCK MIXHO NUK I HUP VLERAT
PO KESAJ PO JA HUPIN VLERAT KETA POLITIKAN QE PO THIRREN HALA NE UCK
TU THANE QE UCK PASKA LUFTUE PER QET JETESE ME SHKIJE MIXHO
ATA LUFTUN PER SHIPNI E BASHKIM
KTA PO RREJN MIXHO
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MesazhTitulli: Re: BBC: UĒK ka abuzuar me civilė   Mon May 31, 2010 7:16 pm

Njeor ganizate shume aktive e angazhuar ne te ashtuquajturen Clirimi roberie apo fetare.

UēK nuk luftoi per bashkim kombetar,por per tu pasurue.Kjo lloje lufte e shqiptareve e ka gjenezen qysh para shume shekujsh.Dhe kinse ne emer te saj keqtrajtuan e masakruan popullin shqiptar vete shqipfolesat.
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MesazhTitulli: Re: BBC: UĒK ka abuzuar me civilė   Mon May 31, 2010 11:53 pm

Thon. cka s'ban toka, a thua ankohet ndonjehere?
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MesazhTitulli: Re: BBC: UĒK ka abuzuar me civilė   Tue Jun 01, 2010 12:00 am

E mor Drin qka spo bajke vaki nė ket duja veq ishalla nė at tjetėrėn jemi rahat .
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MesazhTitulli: Re: BBC: UĒK ka abuzuar me civilė   Tue Jun 01, 2010 12:10 am

O Bashkom i'shalla ... Ama sikur te ishte jeta e leht nuk do te kishim linde duke qare, por duke qesh hahahaha...
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MesazhTitulli: Re: BBC: UĒK ka abuzuar me civilė   Tue Jun 01, 2010 2:16 pm

ka gabime sa te duash
po keto gabime kane ardhur sepse shume atdhetare te vertet u vrane nga serbija apo nga vete shqiptaroshkijet.
keshtu qe ju qel rruga disa tradhtareve dhe e keq perdoren UCK.
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MesazhTitulli: Re: BBC: UĒK ka abuzuar me civilė   Tue Jun 01, 2010 9:26 pm

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Nje budalla thone me qite nje guri ne deti mijera te menqur nuk munden me gjete!

Por me ba nje i meqem me qite nje guri ne pacifik sa tjere te maqem kan mundesin me gjete ?
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MesazhTitulli: Re: BBC: UĒK ka abuzuar me civilė   Wed Jun 02, 2010 12:01 am

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Nje budalla thone me qite nje guri ne deti mijera te menqur nuk munden me gjete!

Por me ba nje i meqem me qite nje guri ne pacifik sa tjere te maqem kan mundesin me gjete ?
As nje ore Xhemshiti se i menquri nuk ka kohe me hudh gur kot.
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MesazhTitulli: Re: BBC: UĒK ka abuzuar me civilė   Wed Jun 02, 2010 12:13 am

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I menquri qe posedon perlat,ka mundesi qe diturin ta keqperdori dhe ta marri ne qafe tere kombin dhe njerezin .
Gabim e ke me fal a .
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MesazhTitulli: Re: BBC: UĒK ka abuzuar me civilė   Wed Jun 02, 2010 12:21 am

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I menquri qe posedon perlat,ka mundesi qe diturin ta keqperdori dhe ta marri ne qafe tere kombin dhe njerezin .
Gabim e ke me fal a .
Ka mundesi pasi eshte njerzore qe te gabosh.
Menquria eshte kat-kate themi tek ne ne Anadrin, perlet o xhemshit nuk pikin nga qjelli edhe ne rrug si le askush...
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MesazhTitulli: Re: BBC: UĒK ka abuzuar me civilė   Wed Jun 02, 2010 12:53 am

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Perlat fitohen me msime,por njeriu nese i shfrytezon per te keq keq bene!
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MesazhTitulli: Re: BBC: UĒK ka abuzuar me civilė   Wed Jun 02, 2010 12:59 am

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Perlat fitohen me msime,por njeriu nese i shfrytezon per te keq keq bene!
Shum e kijart. Ai qe ben keq gjen keq.
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MesazhTitulli: Re: BBC: UĒK ka abuzuar me civilė   Wed Jun 02, 2010 1:03 am

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Ata qe po bejne keq ,mire po jetoin e ata qe po punojshin per kombin e vete po ja perdhoseshin vlerat .
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MesazhTitulli: Re: BBC: UĒK ka abuzuar me civilė   Wed Jun 02, 2010 1:14 am

Tek ne themi nje te mire, po edhe ne deti ta hedhish ate do ta gjesh. Secili ate qe ka mbjell do ta korr.
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MesazhTitulli: Re: BBC: UĒK ka abuzuar me civilė   Wed Jun 02, 2010 1:17 am

Driniiiii shkruajti:
Tek ne themi nje te mire, po edhe ne deti ta hedhish ate do ta gjesh. Secili ate qe ka mbjell do ta korr.



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MesazhTitulli: Re: BBC: UĒK ka abuzuar me civilė   Wed Jun 02, 2010 1:22 am

Miku ta thote te verteten e armiku ate qe ti deshiron me e ndegju!
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